I am trained in clinical psychology (PhD) and have 7 years of practice experience and 31 years in higher education. I taught psychology and then health care from 2000 to 2019 teaching the “human sides of patient care”. I discovered Motivational Interviewing in 2007 and thought it was a great fit for my students. I taught students in pharmacy, dietetics, chiropractic care, physical therapy and social work. I started doing trainings in MI in 2012 for community health/mental health agencies and in corporate settings. I am currently self-employed as an MI trainer and coach. I also have a train the trainers program.